I live in California, I have a clean record. How can I acquire a 9mm handgun for home protection? What are the necessary steps I have to take? Thanks!
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I live in California, I have a clean record. How can I acquire a 9mm handgun for home protection? What are the necessary steps I have to take? Thanks!
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by Vwgirl18
14 Mar 2010 at 01:39
You have to get a weapons permit, which you have to pass shooting classes to get.
by fishtrembleatmyname
14 Mar 2010 at 02:37
Getting a handgun permit in California is extremely difficult, and and for defending your home there are easier, safer, and cheaper ways to go about it. You’ll need to get a pistol permit, which can be difficult there, as it’s not a right to own state, and anyone anywhere in the line can deny you your permit. This is a very waiting intensive process, and can take up to 6 months. Then you’ll need to have the handgun tested at a certified lab, and if it’s not approved by the Department of Justice, then they’ll dispose of it for you. I’m not entirely sure of what they’re testing for, but I believe it’s ‘balistic fingerprinting’ nonsense and checking magazine capacity. Finally, when it gets to your FFL dealer, you’ll be able to request to add it to your permit, and you’ll have to wait again for them to allow you to add it. After they add it to your permit, and register the gun to your name so that in the instance it’s found linked to a crime, they’ll come straight for you, then you can go to pick it up. But after all that, you still can’t have it. You have to demonstrate to your dealer that you know how to safely opperate the pistol, and if he doesn’t believe you do, no pistol for you. Anyone, anywhere, at any time here can make it impossible to get your permit if they feel like it.
I’d suggest going to a sporting goods store to take a look at a few pump action shotguns. While the 870 Express seems to be a favorite around here, don’t underestimate the Mossberg 500. The dual claw extractors and replaceable ejector will outlast the single extractor on the Remington and ejects more dependably.
Cunning Linguist: The reason that Barret won’t sell or service rifles of California is due to an incident back when corrupt politicians were up to no good banning .50BMG rifles. They brought in and illegally used an M82 rifle, which, by California laws, was already illegal, let different people handle it, and then explained that their law would keep this weapon out of the hands of terrorists and dangerous criminals. Everyone involved should have been charged with a felony, but, of course, they won’t. They’re politicians, they don’t have to folow the law.
by steelmillcowboy
14 Mar 2010 at 03:24
Just go to a local hunting supply store or gun shop, and ask them, they know the laws in their state. In all states, you have to have a FOID (fire owner’s ID card), along with a permit for that specific gun, each state has it’s own rules as far as background checks, and firearm training, waiting periods, etc.
Here is a link to a website (the CA attorney general’s office that explains more about CA laws)
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/pubfaqs.htm#7
Like one person said here, California is strict on gun laws, so a rifle or shotgun might be easier to get, most states don’t regulate them as much as handguns.
by H
14 Mar 2010 at 03:27
Since gun ownership laws differ from State to State, why don’t you call a gun vendor in your State from the yellow pages and just ask him what is required to own a handgun.
Best.
H
by Cunning Linguist
14 Mar 2010 at 04:17
Your best bet would be to move out of a non-communist area, and into someplace that respects gun-owners rights, like Texas.
Think I’m making this up? Barrett Arms, which produces the Barrett .50 caliber sniper rifle, does not make it available to California government agencies because of the state’s gun-ownership stance.
by Slim Whitman
14 Mar 2010 at 04:51
Here is the fact sheet from the NRA on your state.
As others have said, I’d be inclined to find a state that isn’t a Kommunist conclave.
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/CASL.pdf
PURCHASE
All firearms sales, transfers or loans, including private
transactions and sales at gun shows, must go through a
California licensed firearms dealer.
An application for sale or transfer must be made
with a licensed California gun dealer before any firearm
may be sold or transferred. This application contains a
description of the buyer or transferee and of the firearm.
The purchaser must present the dealer with a valid
California Driver’s License or a California Identification
Card and supply their right thumbprint. The purchaser
of a handgun must also provide additional proof of
California residence, other than a document from the
Department of Motor Vehicles. The dealer sends a copy
of the application to the California Department of Justice
and the local police chief or sheriff.
The CA DOJ will conduct a background check on
each buyer and the fee is $25.00. There is a 10-day
waiting period before delivery of any firearm. Dealers
must keep a register of all firearm transfers. If a person
has voluntarily been screened through the Personal
Firearms Eligibility Check, and has been found eligible
to purchase and possess firearms, that person must still
undergo a background check and a 10-day waiting period
when purchasing a handgun.
If a person does not take possession of the firearm
from the dealer within 30 days, the entire purchase process
must be repeated, including the payment of fees.
The waiting period and dealer application do not
apply to transfers to police officers, other gun dealers,
manufacturers, or importers, antique firearms, and rifles
and shotguns which are classified as curios or relics by the
federal government, infrequent gifts or transfers to one’s
“immediate family,” an infrequent temporary loan not to
exceed 30 days to a person who is not prohibited from
possessing a firearm, and a transfer of a rifle or shotgun at
auctions by nonprofit or public benefit corporations.
No person shall make an application to purchase more
than one pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person within a 30-day period and
no delivery shall be made to any person who has made an
application to purchase more than one pistol, revolver, or
other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person
within any 30-day period.
No person shall purchase or transfer a handgun to
someone without a Handgun Safety Certificate (HRC).
To receive a handgun safety certificate, a person must
pass a written test that includes but is not limited to laws
applicable to the ownership, use, handling, and carrying
of firearms, particularly handguns. A CA DOJ certified
instructor must administer the Handgun Safety Certificate
test. The HRC is valid for 5 years.
To receive a handgun from a dealer, a person must
have or buy an approved firearms safety device. A list of
firearms safety devices certified for sale can be found on
the California Department of Justice, Firearms Division
website at http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms
by JD
14 Mar 2010 at 05:23
Slim Whitmans answer is not only correct but well detailed. The only thing I can add is the fact that ANY gun possessed or purchased must be on the California State list of approved handguns to be legal to purchase. If it is not on the “list” it is not legal to be owned or transferred in the State of California. Contrary to what others have said here, California does not make a practice of CONFISCATING firearms that are not on the list. Weather or not one attempts to register one that is not on the list is a matter of common sense, not regulation.
California also does Ballistic Fingerprinting and records the rifling left by your particular gun on a test fired bullet, as well as any unique marks left on the ammunition brass as it is test fired. These results go into a state wide database for use by law enforcement to compare against weapons used in crimes. Hardly “nonsense”…as it has been described here.
California is THE toughest state when it comes to firearms restrictions and ownership in the U.S….Fact.
NOTE Hitch..You may have to jump thru a few HOOPS to get a 9mm in California and the process is more than a little hassle, but you will be able to get one with your background. Don’t Panic.Good Luck!
by pathfinder
14 Mar 2010 at 05:50
Go to the gunshop and pick out what you want. Fill out the federal form 4473, the gunshop will call in an instant background check on you, if you pass, you pay for the gun, which you can pick up after the waiting period is over.
by So. Cal Man
14 Mar 2010 at 05:53
If you live anywhere near a Turner’s Outdoorsman, start there. It’s a one stop place for purchasing a firearm. $20.00 for the test, large selection of firearms, and they offer a 60 day lawaway feature.
by jack s Buy more ammo!
14 Mar 2010 at 06:49
Move.
by extreme_right_wing_nut
14 Mar 2010 at 07:19
You’d be better off with a small shot gun like a 20 gauge. More likely than not, you will be shot by your own 9mm. I’ll get a lot of thumbs down for it, but it is a fact.
It’s hard to hit something with a 9mm. Then again, the round punches through multiple walls easily. Maybe killing a loved one instead. The real solution is to lock your doors or move.
If you must have a gun, the shotgun is easy to use, hard to miss. This gives a nice spread, has plenty of stopping power, will not punch through more than 1 wall in most cases.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=632332&t=11082005
http://www.internetarmory.com/shotgun_ammo.htm
by Peter Gozinya
14 Mar 2010 at 07:56
Yup….that’s the price you have to pay for living in the
“Land-Of-Fruits-and-Nuts” – an overall ‘Communistic’ state
to be sure !!